To stay up to date with all things 21st Talks, follow Coleman's Twitter & Instagram.  Remember to rate this episode and, if you have the means, become a member on our Patreon!  This week Coleman sat down with Tobias Baumann and discussed his recent book on the topic of suffering risks (s-risks)! They spoke about the ethical claims behind aiming to minimize pain vs. aiming to maximize flourishing, distinctions of pain and suffering, and potential paths towards literally the worst ethical situation humanity or its descendants could find itself (so-called suffering-risk scenarios)! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/onwhatmatters/support